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Po-Po's - Luckenbach

All rides return via Welfare, TX.
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2009-06-04 Po-Po's

Although I say these rides start from Po-Po's restaurant, technically it's really Nelson City, Tx. But, since Po-Po's is the main attraction in Nelson City, these are traditionally called the Po-Po's rides.

The roads on the Po-Po's rides go through the heart of the Texas Hill Country and give you a good sample of what it has to offer. It's hot in the summer, windy in the spring, and pretty all year long!

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This ride takes you from Po-Po's to historic Luckenbach, TX, and back. I'm not going to mention the song.

Park on the side of FM 289 across the street from Po-Po's. Try not to block out too much of the space for the Po-Po's customers.

Ride Dist. Type Description
0.0 restaurant Po-Po's is where you start the ride. It doesn't seem to be open early, so you can't really get stuff before the ride. But it'll be open for lunch when you're done.
6.0 store The Waring General Store is at the corner in Waring where Waring-Welfare Rd. and FM 1621 meet.
13.7 store & bar Sisterdale Trading Co. and Saloon is to your right in Sisterdale where FM 473 runs into FM 1376. (0.2 miles off route)
29.4 bar Luckenbach, TX. If the bar's not open, there's a faucet on the side of the building you can get water from.
38.4 bar & cafe Alamo Springs General Store and Cafe is just down Alamo Road from the bat tunnel parking lot. It claims to be open daily from 10:00 am to 10:00 pm. (0.1 miles off route)
51.0 store The Waring General Store is at the corner in Waring where Waring-Welfare Rd. and FM 1621 meet.
57.1 restaurant Po-Po's is where you start the ride. It doesn't seem to be open early, so you can't really get stuff before the ride. But it'll be open for lunch when you're done.
Ride Dist. Description
2.6 Welfare, TX
21.7 Bottom of the 'Luckenberg', which is the big hill between Sisterdale and Luckenbach
22.7 Top of the 'Luckenberg'.
29.4 Luckenbach, TX.
35.2 Grapetown School (on left)
35.8 Bankersmith, TX (on left)
36.6 Hohenberger Farmstead (on right)
37.1 Lavender farm (on left)
38.5 Old Tunnel bat area.
54.5 Welfare, TX
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Total Miles Instructions For Miles
0.00 NORTH on FM 289 0.07
0.07 RIGHT onto Waring-Welfare Rd. 5.96
6.03 RIGHT onto Waring-Welfare Rd. 0.29
6.32 RIGHT onto Zoeller Lane 4.38
10.69 RIGHT onto FM 473 (no sign) 2.99
13.68 LEFT onto FM 1376 15.61
29.29 LEFT onto Luckenbach Town Lp. 0.53
29.82 LEFT onto FM 1376 0.27
30.09 LEFT onto Grapetown Rd. 4.72
34.81 LEFT onto Old #9 Highway (no sign) 11.71
46.52 LEFT onto FM 473 1.09
47.60 RIGHT onto Waring-Welfare Rd. 3.44
51.05 LEFT onto Waring-Welfare Rd. 5.70
56.75 LEFT at the Y 0.26
57.01 LEFT onto FM 289 0.06
57.07 Arrive at finish  
Total Miles Instructions For Miles
0.00 NORTH on FM 289
If you're facing Po-Po's, this is to the left.
FM 289
Short hop from parking.
lanes: 2
shoulder: 0
traffic: Light
speed: 45
0.07
0.07 RIGHT onto Waring-Welfare Rd.
Waring-Welfare Rd. T's in on the right.
Waring-Welfare Rd.
Wind through the countryside, past Welfare, to Waring.
lanes: 2
shoulder: 0
traffic: Light
speed: 45
5.96
6.03 RIGHT onto Waring-Welfare Rd.
Waring-Welfare Rd. takes a right when it comes to the general store in Waring.
Waring-Welfare Rd.
Go down the hill to the river.
lanes: 2
shoulder: 0
traffic: Light
speed: 45
0.29
6.32 RIGHT onto Zoeller Lane
Right at the Y at the bottom of the hill just before you cross the bridge over the river.
Zoeller Lane
Wind along past the river and fields.
lanes: 1
shoulder: 0
traffic: Light
speed: 35
4.38
10.69 RIGHT onto FM 473 (no sign)
Zoeller Lane dead-ends into FM 473.
FM 473
This is a very rolling road.
lanes: 2
shoulder: 0
traffic: Light
speed: 60
2.99
13.68 LEFT onto FM 1376
FM 473 dead-ends into FM 1376
FM 1376
Wind through the country, over a big hill, and into Luckenbach.
lanes: 2
shoulder: 0
traffic: Light
speed: 65
15.61
29.29 LEFT onto Luckenbach Town Lp.
Luckenbach Town Lp. T's in on the left.
Luckenbach Town Lp.
Take a stop in Luckenbach!
lanes: 1
shoulder: 0
traffic: Light
speed: 20
0.53
29.82 LEFT onto FM 1376
Luckenbach Town Lp. dead-ends into FM 1376.
FM 1376
Quick hop to Grapetown Rd.
lanes: 2
shoulder: 0
traffic: Light
speed: 65
0.27
30.09 LEFT onto Grapetown Rd.
Grapetown Rd. T's in on the left.
Grapetown Rd.
Think of the German settlers here a hundred years ago or more as you wind along this road.
lanes: 1
shoulder: 0
traffic: Light
speed: 45
4.72
34.81 LEFT onto Old #9 Highway (no sign)
Grapetown Rd. dead-ends into Old #9 Highway.
Old #9 Highway
After a bit you will climb over the hill and past the bat tunnel before descending.
lanes: 2
shoulder: 0
traffic: Light
speed: 40
11.71
46.52 LEFT onto FM 473
FM 473 T's in on the left.
FM 473
Climb up to Waring-Welfare Rd.
lanes: 2
shoulder: 0
traffic: Light
speed: 60
1.09
47.60 RIGHT onto Waring-Welfare Rd.
Waring-Welfare Rd.
Go down hill to the river, then climb up to Waring.
lanes: 2
shoulder: 0
traffic: Light
speed: 45
3.44
51.05 LEFT onto Waring-Welfare Rd.
Turn left at the Waring general store.
Waring-Welfare Rd.
Climb out of Waring, then wind past Welfare on your way back to Po-Po's.
lanes: 2
shoulder: 0
traffic: Light
speed: 45
5.70
56.75 LEFT at the Y
There's a Y intersection when you're almost back to your car. Bear left at the Y. If you miss the turn, you'll run into FM 289. Go left and you'll get back to your car shortly.
Waring-Welfare Rd.
Go up the hill back to your car.
lanes: 2
shoulder: 0
traffic: Light
speed: 45
0.26
57.01 LEFT onto FM 289
Waring-Welfare Rd. dead-ends into FM 289.
FM 289
You parked around here.
lanes: 2
shoulder: 1
traffic: Light
speed: 45
0.06
57.07 Arrive at finish  
Ride Elevation Analysis
small ride profile
Ride Analysis
  elevation change (feet) distance (miles) avg. grade (%)
Climbing 3664.36 25.02 2.8
Descending -3675.57 32.05 -2.2
Overall 7339.93 57.07  
Top 10 Climbs:
Rank Gradient (%) Distance (miles)
1 3.8 1.73
2 3.7 0.62
3 3.2 0.52
4 2.8 0.70
5 2.8 0.52
6 2.7 0.76
7 2.0 0.81
8 1.8 0.94
9 1.1 0.56
10 0.7 0.53
Segment Elevation Analyses
FM 289 from parking to Waring-Welfare Rd.
Starting at 0.00 miles for 0.07 miles
segment 0 small profile
Segment Analysis
  elevation change (feet) distance (miles) avg. grade (%)
Climbing 6.56 0.02 7.7
Descending -6.56 0.06 -2.2
Overall 13.12 0.07  
Top 10 Climbs:
Rank Gradient (%) Distance (miles)
1 1.4 0.04
Waring-Welfare Rd. from FM 289 to Waring
Starting at 0.07 miles for 5.96 miles
segment 1 small profile
Segment Analysis
  elevation change (feet) distance (miles) avg. grade (%)
Climbing 248.36 1.84 2.6
Descending -483.55 4.12 -2.2
Overall 731.91 5.96  
Top 10 Climbs:
Rank Gradient (%) Distance (miles)
1 2.5 0.38
2 2.1 0.34
3 1.8 0.30
4 1.5 0.14
5 0.8 0.11
6 0.8 0.07
7 0.8 0.08
8 0.5 0.12
9 0.3 0.09
10 0.3 0.10
Waring-Welfare Rd. from Waring to Zoeller Ln.
Starting at 6.03 miles for 0.29 miles
segment 2 small profile
Segment Analysis
  elevation change (feet) distance (miles) avg. grade (%)
Climbing 1.64 0.01 3.5
Descending -50.78 0.28 -3.5
Overall 52.42 0.29  
Zoeller Lane from Waring-Welfare Rd. to FM 473
Starting at 6.32 miles for 4.38 miles
segment 3 small profile
Segment Analysis
  elevation change (feet) distance (miles) avg. grade (%)
Climbing 285.82 2.44 2.2
Descending -106.96 1.93 -1.0
Overall 392.77 4.38  
Top 10 Climbs:
Rank Gradient (%) Distance (miles)
1 5.3 0.17
2 2.4 0.04
3 2.0 0.81
4 1.8 0.05
5 1.5 0.04
6 1.2 0.30
7 0.7 0.53
8 0.5 0.07
9 0.3 0.10
FM 473 from Zoeller Lane to FM 1376
Starting at 10.69 miles for 2.99 miles
segment 4 small profile
Segment Analysis
  elevation change (feet) distance (miles) avg. grade (%)
Climbing 74.22 0.79 1.8
Descending -271.33 2.19 -2.3
Overall 345.54 2.99  
Top 10 Climbs:
Rank Gradient (%) Distance (miles)
1 1.6 0.24
2 1.3 0.02
3 0.9 0.26
4 0.7 0.05
5 0.6 0.21
FM 1376 from FM 473 to Luckenbach Town Lp.
Starting at 13.68 miles for 15.61 miles
segment 5 small profile
Segment Analysis
  elevation change (feet) distance (miles) avg. grade (%)
Climbing 1276.59 8.00 3.0
Descending -1002.62 7.61 -2.5
Overall 2279.22 15.61  
Top 10 Climbs:
Rank Gradient (%) Distance (miles)
1 3.8 1.73
2 3.2 0.52
3 3.0 0.43
4 2.9 0.34
5 2.8 0.52
6 2.1 0.45
7 1.8 0.94
8 1.7 0.44
9 1.3 0.49
10 0.9 0.27
Luckenbach Town Lp. from FM 1376 to FM 1376
Starting at 29.29 miles for 0.53 miles
segment 6 small profile
Segment Analysis
  elevation change (feet) distance (miles) avg. grade (%)
Climbing 61.74 0.29 4.0
Descending -6.23 0.24 -0.5
Overall 67.98 0.53  
Top 10 Climbs:
Rank Gradient (%) Distance (miles)
1 3.7 0.16
2 3.6 0.08
3 1.3 0.04
4 1.1 0.03
FM 1376 from Luckenbach Town Lp. to Grapetown Rd.
Starting at 29.82 miles for 0.27 miles
segment 7 small profile
Segment Analysis
  elevation change (feet) distance (miles) avg. grade (%)
Climbing 15.75 0.14 2.1
Descending -14.57 0.12 -2.2
Overall 30.32 0.27  
Grapetown Rd. from FM 1376 to Old #9 Highway
Starting at 30.09 miles for 4.72 miles
segment 8 small profile
Segment Analysis
  elevation change (feet) distance (miles) avg. grade (%)
Climbing 355.64 2.43 2.8
Descending -153.96 2.29 -1.3
Overall 509.60 4.72  
Top 10 Climbs:
Rank Gradient (%) Distance (miles)
1 4.1 0.44
2 3.4 0.24
3 2.8 0.22
4 2.1 0.33
5 1.8 0.36
6 1.1 0.15
7 1.0 0.26
8 0.9 0.23
9 0.5 0.16
10 0.5 0.31
Old #9 Highway from Grapetown Rd. to FM 473
Starting at 34.81 miles for 11.71 miles
segment 9 small profile
Segment Analysis
  elevation change (feet) distance (miles) avg. grade (%)
Climbing 531.82 3.97 2.5
Descending -949.84 7.73 -2.3
Overall 1481.66 11.71  
Top 10 Climbs:
Rank Gradient (%) Distance (miles)
1 4.2 0.17
2 3.3 0.46
3 3.0 0.30
4 2.8 0.15
5 2.7 0.24
6 2.5 0.23
7 2.3 0.24
8 1.2 0.31
9 0.9 0.24
10 0.8 0.27
FM 473 from Old #9 Highway to Waring-Welfare Rd.
Starting at 46.52 miles for 1.09 miles
segment 10 small profile
Segment Analysis
  elevation change (feet) distance (miles) avg. grade (%)
Climbing 175.43 0.95 3.5
Descending -2.95 0.13 -0.4
Overall 178.38 1.09  
Top 10 Climbs:
Rank Gradient (%) Distance (miles)
1 2.7 0.76
Waring-Welfare Rd. from FM 473 to Waring
Starting at 47.60 miles for 3.44 miles
segment 11 small profile
Segment Analysis
  elevation change (feet) distance (miles) avg. grade (%)
Climbing 116.09 0.86 2.5
Descending -345.80 2.58 -2.5
Overall 461.89 3.44  
Top 10 Climbs:
Rank Gradient (%) Distance (miles)
1 1.8 0.05
2 1.8 0.22
3 1.0 0.06
4 0.8 0.08
5 0.7 0.05
6 0.6 0.14
7 0.4 0.08
Waring-Welfare Rd. from Waring to Y
Starting at 51.05 miles for 5.70 miles
segment 12 small profile
Segment Analysis
  elevation change (feet) distance (miles) avg. grade (%)
Climbing 460.63 3.01 2.9
Descending -270.58 2.69 -1.9
Overall 731.21 5.70  
Top 10 Climbs:
Rank Gradient (%) Distance (miles)
1 3.7 0.62
2 2.8 0.70
3 2.6 0.19
4 2.5 0.22
5 1.8 0.18
6 1.3 0.45
7 1.1 0.56
8 0.5 0.33
9 0.5 0.12
10 0.0 0.18
Waring-Welfare Rd. from Y to FM 289
Starting at 56.75 miles for 0.26 miles
segment 13 small profile
Segment Analysis
  elevation change (feet) distance (miles) avg. grade (%)
Climbing 52.42 0.25 4.0
Descending -3.28 0.01 -4.2
Overall 55.70 0.26  
FM 289 from Waring-Welfare Rd. to parking
Starting at 57.01 miles for 0.06 miles
segment 14 small profile
Segment Analysis
  elevation change (feet) distance (miles) avg. grade (%)
Climbing 1.64 0.00 173.0
Descending -6.56 0.06 -2.2
Overall 8.20 0.06  
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The first thing you have to do for any of these rides is get to the starting place. This tab gives you everything you need to get there.

Up top is a description of the starting place. Below that is a box to enter the address of where you're coming from so you can get directions. When you've entered the address, press the 'Get directions to parking' button and it'll tell you how to get there. You'll get the usual Google Maps turn-by-turn instructions below the address box, and you'll get a corresponding line drawn on the map. Follow these directions, and you'll get to the ride.

Once you've digested the directions you will probably get tired of having the map cluttered up by them. Just hit the 'Clear parking directions from map' button and they will go away.

If you'd like to print out the driving directions, the "Get printable parking directions" button will bring up a Google Maps page with the parking directions in them that you can manipulate and print out.

Here's all the information you need to know about stops on the ride. Mostly this is where to get water and food and how far away it is. I generally prefer to list convenience stores and things like that because they're geared to deal with travelers on the go. I don't include all the restaurants and hotels and everything else, since those things aren't really necessary to help you get through the ride and there are far better resources on the web for finding those sorts of things. If there's a restaurant I particularly like eating at after a ride, I'll mention it in the overview.

You can click on any stop in the list and it'll show its info window on the map. This helpful if you're not sure where on the map a stop is.

Ride Dist.: Distance to the stop from the start of the ride. This is in miles. Sometimes I include stops that aren't actually on the route but are close to it. For those, I'll show how far off the route the stop is. These are as-the-crow-flies distances based on the point in the ride you would turn off to get to the stop, so the street distance is probably a little further to get to the stop.

Type: What type of place you're stopping at. It's mostly convenience stores, but I do add other types of places when they are very convenient or are the only things available.

Description: Anything you need to know about this stop.

Occasionally there are interesting things to check out along the ride. Here I tell you all about them.

You can click on any POI in the list and it'll show its info window on the map. This is helpful if you're not sure where on the map a POI is.

Ride Dist.: Distance to the POI from the start of the ride. This is in miles. Sometimes I include POIs that aren't actually on the route but are close to it. For those, I'll show how far off the route the POI is. These are as-the-crow-flies distances based on the point in the ride you would turn off to get to the POI, so the street distance is probably a little further to get to the it.

Description: Anything you need to know about this POI.

What does all this stuff mean? These are all the instructions necessary to complete this ride. This includes the turns and intersections of interest and which way to go when you reach them.

There are short and long instructions. You see the long instructions when you check the "Show road descriptions in list?" box. The long instructions include information about the street and any comments for the turns.

You can click on any instruction in the list and it'll show its turn info window in the map. If you click on the road information in the long instructions it'll show you its road info window in the map. This helpful if you're not sure where on the map a stop or road is.

When there's a road that the road conditions change on, such as speed, shoulder or lanes, I put the worst of the conditions down. This means narrowest shoulder, fastest speed, and most lanes of traffic. This way you can only be pleasently surprised.

Short Instructions

Total Miles: Distance to the turn from start of ride.

Instructions: What to do at the turn. Usually it'll be RIGHT or LEFT, and occasionally STRAIGHT. The first instruction of the ride is the direction to head away from parking.

For Miles: Length of the road you turn onto.

Long Instructions

The long instructions include all information from the short instructions plus the following:

Turn Comments: These show-up right below the turn instruction and tell you any additional information that is helpful to make the turn. I'll point out when the current road dead-ends into the next one, or when the next road T's into the current one. A 'T' intersection is when the new road dead-ends into the one you're currently on.

Road Name: Name of the road you are turning onto. When a road changes names while you're going down it, I'll put the name as "first name/second name". Also, there are lots of ways to designate country roads. Sometimes they're called "Farm Road", sometimes "Ranch Road", and sometimes just "FM" (for Farm to Market). In fact, you might see all three designations used on the same road in different places. I've just settled on calling them all "FM" since it's easier to type. Therefore, when I call something "FM", you should keep your eyes open for any of the three designations.

Road Description: Description of the road and any relevant facts about it.

Lanes: How many lanes this road has. This includes both directions, but doesn't include center turning lanes when they exist. The difference between a 1 and a 2 is sometimes a close call. I generally say there is one lane if there's no center stripe. This means that many streets that I rate as a 1 can fit two cars but aren't striped.

Shoulder: How wide the shoulder is. This is a subjective measurement that tells you how many bikes you can comfortably fit next to eachother. 1/4 means that it's just enough shoulder to tease you but isn't very helpful. 1/2 means the shoulder is wide enough for a cyclist, but that cars still need to scoot over to give you room. 1 means that a cyclist can comfortably fit in the shoulder with enough room for cars to pass without moving over. Numbers go up to 2+ for super-wide shoulders.

Traffic: How heavy the traffic is on this road. Right now this is a TOTALLY subjective measurement based on how I feel about the roads after having ridden them. In the near future I hope to switch to real traffic counts or something else that is more objective and, frankly, more useful.

Speed: Speed limit on this road. I make note of the speed limit signs and go with the fastest limit. It's not unusual for a road to change speed limits as you go down it so I choose the fastest in order to not under-estimate what the traffic is doing on the road. Some roads don't have posted speed limits, so I go with reasonable estimates. I usually guess 30 mph for residential and 40 mph for rural roads.

This is an analysis of the elevation data for the ride and for each of the segments of the ride.

The graphs show the elevation profiles. They are shaded underneath to show how steep each part of the ride is, lighter for less steep all the way to black for very steep. I normalize the height so you see elevations from 0 to the tallest point on the ride. I don't put the true elevation above sea level because, for the San Antonio area, elevation above sea level isn't very interesting since we're never high enough to make a difference. Also, you can click on a graph to see a larger version of it. The larger graph will pop up in a separate window.

The ride and segment analyses show how much climbing and descending you'll do in the ride or segment and what the average grade is for each. The climb list tells you how steep and how long the worst climbs in the ride or segment are, and is ranked by steepness.